Amy lost her cat Roy two weeks before we recorded this episode. Seventeen years together. She called him her "heart animal"—if you know, you know.
What started as a conversation about grief turned into something bigger. We ended up talking about mortality, meaning, faith without religion, and why our culture sucks at dealing with death. Amy's been wrestling with the big questions lately, and she doesn't pretend to have easy answers.
She's also gotten really good at boundaries. There's a story in here about telling someone to fuck off (politely) when they kept asking for career advice while she was processing loss. It's beautiful.
This isn't a conversation about moving on or finding silver linings. It's about sitting with hard things and figuring out what actually matters when you're honest about the fact that everything ends.
People are more interesting than the shit they do for work. That's why this podcast exists.
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